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<blockquote data-quote="Will" data-source="post: 270013" data-attributes="member: 5566"><p>Let's see, magic that affects BAB...</p><p></p><p>Tenser's Transformation (+1 BAB per 2 caster levels, among other things, which can grant extra attacks)</p><p>Divine Power (BAB as that of a fighter of your total level)</p><p></p><p>So there are at least in game things you can point to and say 'I want something like that'.</p><p></p><p>It's not hard to imagine a Wish phrased as 'I want to be better in combat'.</p><p></p><p>Consider +1 Strength. It grants something like +.5 melee attacks (0 or 1, depending), and +1 damage.</p><p>+1 BAB grants +1 on melee and ranged, and an extra attack. A little more powerful... maybe require two wishes, or some extra 'oomph'.</p><p></p><p>As for changing classes, given that magic already can play with class effects (Two spells mentioned above, frex), it wouldn't be hard to imagine requesting 'I wish I was more knowledgeable in military arts than magical arts', or even 'I wish I had the benefit of a year of combat training rather than the year I spent studying magic.'</p><p></p><p>Sum 'balance' effect: Loss of 5k XP for being effectively the same rough power of character.</p><p></p><p>That _really_ seems like a nonissue to me. 5k is a lot to pay to rearrange a character.</p><p></p><p>As for justification... the game mechanics are there to serve the game. If I go into a game expecting one thing and getting another, I think adjusting things are warranted.</p><p></p><p>If I want a quick and nimble forest fighter and went with ranger, maybe I discover down the road that it's _nothing_ like I wanted. I could either throw out my concept and rework it around the character, get rid of the character and bring in a new one, or rewrite the character as, perhaps, a Rog/Ftr.</p><p></p><p>Again, other than letting the game progress smoothly, I don't see the problem. I mean, if the game is resting on the fact the character is a ranger, changing the class would screw things up. OTOH, I imagine that if the player was startled or dismayed by how rangers feel in 3e, the DM has failed to communicate what's going on.</p><p></p><p>-=Will</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Will, post: 270013, member: 5566"] Let's see, magic that affects BAB... Tenser's Transformation (+1 BAB per 2 caster levels, among other things, which can grant extra attacks) Divine Power (BAB as that of a fighter of your total level) So there are at least in game things you can point to and say 'I want something like that'. It's not hard to imagine a Wish phrased as 'I want to be better in combat'. Consider +1 Strength. It grants something like +.5 melee attacks (0 or 1, depending), and +1 damage. +1 BAB grants +1 on melee and ranged, and an extra attack. A little more powerful... maybe require two wishes, or some extra 'oomph'. As for changing classes, given that magic already can play with class effects (Two spells mentioned above, frex), it wouldn't be hard to imagine requesting 'I wish I was more knowledgeable in military arts than magical arts', or even 'I wish I had the benefit of a year of combat training rather than the year I spent studying magic.' Sum 'balance' effect: Loss of 5k XP for being effectively the same rough power of character. That _really_ seems like a nonissue to me. 5k is a lot to pay to rearrange a character. As for justification... the game mechanics are there to serve the game. If I go into a game expecting one thing and getting another, I think adjusting things are warranted. If I want a quick and nimble forest fighter and went with ranger, maybe I discover down the road that it's _nothing_ like I wanted. I could either throw out my concept and rework it around the character, get rid of the character and bring in a new one, or rewrite the character as, perhaps, a Rog/Ftr. Again, other than letting the game progress smoothly, I don't see the problem. I mean, if the game is resting on the fact the character is a ranger, changing the class would screw things up. OTOH, I imagine that if the player was startled or dismayed by how rangers feel in 3e, the DM has failed to communicate what's going on. -=Will [/QUOTE]
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