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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8527422" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>The question is, how much of a chance of killing a wounded volcano pig in one blow do you want? Since <em><strong>Relentless</strong></em> leaves the pig with 1 hit point, the next hit will be bound to kill it.</p><p></p><p>Basically, the <em><strong>Relentless</strong></em> damage threshold should be scaled to the likely weapon damage of typical characters of the Volcano Pigs' Challenge rating.</p><p></p><p>A Giant Boar's 10 damage threshold means a nondescript fighter striking two-handed with a longsword for 1d10 damage could finish it off one blow in ten with a non-critical hit, but if they rolled a critical hit for 2d10 damage they'd have a 64% of doing enough to kill it. A decent warrior with, say, a greatsword and respectable strength bonus might do 2d6+3 damage meaning they'd have better than even chances of making a finishing blow on the first try.</p><p></p><p>Giving the volcano pig a threshold of 15 would mean a 2d6+3 damage greatsword wielder would <em>just</em> be able to kill it with a single non-critical hit, but would need to roll a 12 to do so, a 1 in 36 chance. A critical hit for 4d6+3 would have a reasonable chance of doing 15 or more damage.</p><p></p><p>Contrariwise, a threshold of 20 is hard to achieve with a single weapon attack. It's <em>just</em> possible to do so with a critical 2H longsword's 2d10 damage, but there's only a 1% chance, and even the 4d6+3 of the critical greatsword hit would have to roll well to hit that number. It requires an unusually powerful opponent, like a Hill Giant with its 3d8 + 5 damage greatclub, do have a good chance of inflicting such a degree of finishing damage, but normal humanoid fighters tend to have more attacks that do less damage per attack.</p><p></p><p>A special attack can easily do 20 or more damage - a 7th level rogue sneak-attacking with a sword does 1d8 + 4d6 + attribute which will often be enough, and the 3d10 necrotic damage of an <em>inflict wounds</em> will usually be enough to.</p><p></p><p>So do you want the Volcano Pig to require a special attack, critical hit, or an unusually powerful opponent to kill in a single blow or not?</p><p></p><p>If you wish there to be decent odds of cutting through its <em><strong>Relentless</strong></em> with a normal weapon hit I think the threshold should be somewhere in the 10-15 range. Maybe even the 12 it is in the current draft?</p><p></p><p>I'm not 100% sure what the typical weapon damage of a party gearing up against Challenge 5 opponents is, which makes it hard estimating what an appropriate threshold would be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8527422, member: 57383"] The question is, how much of a chance of killing a wounded volcano pig in one blow do you want? Since [I][B]Relentless[/B][/I] leaves the pig with 1 hit point, the next hit will be bound to kill it. Basically, the [I][B]Relentless[/B][/I] damage threshold should be scaled to the likely weapon damage of typical characters of the Volcano Pigs' Challenge rating. A Giant Boar's 10 damage threshold means a nondescript fighter striking two-handed with a longsword for 1d10 damage could finish it off one blow in ten with a non-critical hit, but if they rolled a critical hit for 2d10 damage they'd have a 64% of doing enough to kill it. A decent warrior with, say, a greatsword and respectable strength bonus might do 2d6+3 damage meaning they'd have better than even chances of making a finishing blow on the first try. Giving the volcano pig a threshold of 15 would mean a 2d6+3 damage greatsword wielder would [I]just[/I] be able to kill it with a single non-critical hit, but would need to roll a 12 to do so, a 1 in 36 chance. A critical hit for 4d6+3 would have a reasonable chance of doing 15 or more damage. Contrariwise, a threshold of 20 is hard to achieve with a single weapon attack. It's [I]just[/I] possible to do so with a critical 2H longsword's 2d10 damage, but there's only a 1% chance, and even the 4d6+3 of the critical greatsword hit would have to roll well to hit that number. It requires an unusually powerful opponent, like a Hill Giant with its 3d8 + 5 damage greatclub, do have a good chance of inflicting such a degree of finishing damage, but normal humanoid fighters tend to have more attacks that do less damage per attack. A special attack can easily do 20 or more damage - a 7th level rogue sneak-attacking with a sword does 1d8 + 4d6 + attribute which will often be enough, and the 3d10 necrotic damage of an [I]inflict wounds[/I] will usually be enough to. So do you want the Volcano Pig to require a special attack, critical hit, or an unusually powerful opponent to kill in a single blow or not? If you wish there to be decent odds of cutting through its [I][B]Relentless[/B][/I] with a normal weapon hit I think the threshold should be somewhere in the 10-15 range. Maybe even the 12 it is in the current draft? I'm not 100% sure what the typical weapon damage of a party gearing up against Challenge 5 opponents is, which makes it hard estimating what an appropriate threshold would be. [/QUOTE]
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