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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9334843" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>It is not eliminating all meaning. You aren't understanding what I am saying. </p><p></p><p>Is there a difference between channeling the mystic power of Angels and "planning"? Yes. Obviously. </p><p></p><p>Is there a difference between channeling the mystic power of Angels and channeling the energy of your own body? Yes. Obviously. </p><p></p><p>Is there a difference between channeling the mystic power of Angels, channeling the energy of your own body, eating a purple-hearted herb planted at midnight on the equinox, and moving in time with the song of the stars? Yes. Obviously. </p><p></p><p>But the thing that is the same about channeling the mystical power of Angels to call down holy fire, channeling the energy of your own body to send a shockwave through your opponent, eating a purple-hearted herb that gives the the strength of giants and moving in time with the song of the stars to step into the future and glimpse what is to come... is that they are all supernatural. It doesn't matter if anyone with the proper training can do two or three of these, it doesn't matter if everyone is capable of it, if the entire process is completely natural with no need for spiritualism or symbolism... none of it works in the real-world. </p><p></p><p>Any given world is going to treat any given power system differently, just like they are going to treat anything else differently. But whether souls are gifts from the gods, sparks of starfire, emergent properties of creation, or just the conscious self separate from the body... anything manipulating a soul is supernatural. Be it hyper-tech, god magic, or meditation. Just like I don't think every mystery novel or horror novel does everything the exact same way, I don't see calling all things that are impossible in this reality "supernatural". It doesn't donote how they work or why they work, just that I'm not going to be able to do them or meet anyone who has ever done them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9334843, member: 6801228"] It is not eliminating all meaning. You aren't understanding what I am saying. Is there a difference between channeling the mystic power of Angels and "planning"? Yes. Obviously. Is there a difference between channeling the mystic power of Angels and channeling the energy of your own body? Yes. Obviously. Is there a difference between channeling the mystic power of Angels, channeling the energy of your own body, eating a purple-hearted herb planted at midnight on the equinox, and moving in time with the song of the stars? Yes. Obviously. But the thing that is the same about channeling the mystical power of Angels to call down holy fire, channeling the energy of your own body to send a shockwave through your opponent, eating a purple-hearted herb that gives the the strength of giants and moving in time with the song of the stars to step into the future and glimpse what is to come... is that they are all supernatural. It doesn't matter if anyone with the proper training can do two or three of these, it doesn't matter if everyone is capable of it, if the entire process is completely natural with no need for spiritualism or symbolism... none of it works in the real-world. Any given world is going to treat any given power system differently, just like they are going to treat anything else differently. But whether souls are gifts from the gods, sparks of starfire, emergent properties of creation, or just the conscious self separate from the body... anything manipulating a soul is supernatural. Be it hyper-tech, god magic, or meditation. Just like I don't think every mystery novel or horror novel does everything the exact same way, I don't see calling all things that are impossible in this reality "supernatural". It doesn't donote how they work or why they work, just that I'm not going to be able to do them or meet anyone who has ever done them. [/QUOTE]
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