See through mists/darkness/blahblahblah

[trentonjoe]

The lastest dragon magazine has a monster, I think it's called Shadow Demon, that can cast obscuring mist as an ability. That got me thinking, can it see through the mist?

The spell says it obscures all vision, even darkvision, beyond 5 feet. Now, here are the questions:

1. Can the caster see through his own spell? ( I think no is the answer but checking)

2. What is the name of the ability that can see in any conditions?

3. What monsters have this ability?

Thanks in advance.

 

[MythandLore]

The lastest dragon magazine has a monster, I think it's called Shadow Demon, that can cast obscuring mist as an ability. That got me thinking, can it see through the mist?

The spell says it obscures all vision, even darkvision, beyond 5 feet. Now, here are the questions:

1. Can the caster see through his own spell? ( I think no is the answer but checking)

2. What is the name of the ability that can see in any conditions?

3. What monsters have this ability?

Thanks in advance.

1) No

2) Blindsight

3) Dragons, I think bats and others.

 

[Darkness]

See through mists/darkness/blahblahblah

Hmph! That's not nice.

 

[MythandLore]

Re: Re: See through mists/darkness/blahblahblah

Hmph! That's not nice.

lol!-AH-HAHAHAHA!!!
HA-ha-ah-ha-aaah.

Wait, let me read that again.

Hmph! That's not nice.

AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[bret]

Re: Re: Re: See through mists/darkness/blahblahblah

AH-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

It's not smart to laught at a moderator.

 

[graydoom]

Re: Re: See through mists/darkness/blahblahblah

2) Blindsight

3) Dragons, I think bats and others.

Actually, blindsight doesn't work in some situations, depending on what the blindsight is based on. Bats blindsight is based on sound (effectively sonar) and as such a Silence spell "blinds" them. Since a dragon's blindsight relies on "mostly hearing and scent, but also by noticing vibration and other environmental clues", a combination of Silence, a strong stench pervading the area, and something to stop vibration (such as floating a foot above the ground) would counteract it.

Blindsight has both ups and downs. Yes, you can see through stuff like obscuring mist and Darkness, but a simple Silence can leave you effectively blind.

 

[drowdude]

Devils have an ability called "See in Darkness" that allows them to see perfectly in any sort of darkness, magical or mundane.


Not entirely sure that I would apply that to Obscuring Mist though *shrugs*


Then any creature that has Blindsight (such as Dragons) would be relatively uneffected by the spell depending on how far their blindsight extended.

 

[CRGreathouse]

There are lots of different sense abilities. Off the top of my head:

Low-light Vision (elves)
Darkvison (dwarves)
Tremorsense (thoqua)
Blindsight (bats)
Scent (dogs)
Superior Low-Light Vision (giant owl)
Keen Senses (dragons) - blindsight + doubled Low-Light Vision

 

[SpikeyFreak]

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It's not smart to laught at a moderator.

Ah yes, but it is very smart to laugh WITH a mod.

--Brown-nosing Spikey