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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 8870377" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>I've been playing some form of D&D for ~35 years. I collected a LOT of 2e, I think everything 3e, most of 4e (which I thought lacked imagination), and just the PHB from 5E (which I did like)... With all the other RPGs, miniature games books, etc. I've collected over the past 35 years, my book cases are beyond full. The amount of digital RPG books I've collected (legally) is also quite extensive, especially the recent past has been fruitful of Bundles (Humble & Holding), plus some Kickstarters.</p><p></p><p>During the 4E era I bought D&D books out of some sort of 'obligation' or maybe collectors addiction. I've had some interest in the settings WotC has visited during 5E, but most of those books either go a direction I don't like or are whitewashed to such a degree that it feels Beyond Bland... I might still get the 5E DMG/MM, maybe the same for D&D One (but I doubt it). I do NOT like the new OGL (and I was already not that happy with what they did with 4e/5e OGL/SRD). I recently did buy some (not so) miniatures (D&D), the BIG Tiamat (and a couple of smaller versions) and the Dracoliches, very nice!</p><p></p><p>I do not like D&Ds current Blandness by trying to cater to everyone, but you can't please everyone. The heavy commercialization of D&D also doesn't sit well with me and I suspect that WotC/Hasbro will create a similar hellscape that Magic: The Gathering is currently in...</p><p></p><p>Now, what I'm saying is that I'm not averse to spending a LOT on D&D (now and in the past). But see very little benefit in me spending much more on the actual D&D RPG books. And making stuff for it with the OGL changes I can't ever see happening, why not do a couple of steps back, a pretty open OGL/SRD to build on, and move on from there... Heck, a lot of 3rd party publishers have been generating better stuff then WotC has been producing for a decade (or two)...</p><p></p><p>I'm old (46) and maybe that is the issue? But there are a ton of different current media that I do like. Movies, TV shows, books, computer games, board/card games, etc. But maybe I have an issue with IPs that become a 'brand' that needs to milked into oblivion, and I see that not just being a problem in RPGs... I see that especially with older RPGs (often already have had many editions), like the recent versions of Shadowrun I also don't like, Pathfinder 2E I look at with "Meh!(tm)" eyes, the new World of Darkness RPGs (Vampire, Werewolf, etc.) feel like they threw it all in the washer and threw in a couple of bottles of bleach for good measure, the newer RPGs in the 40k universe also feel like 'less' then the previous versions, etc.</p><p></p><p>I'm curious how the the Balder's Gate 3 game will get reviewed upon release, I might buy it... But mostly I'm now looking at older products for D&D (probably second-hand) instead of the new stuff. And beyond some of the iconic miniatures (like the Draconians), some older board games, maybe some of the old CCG stuff, a couple of artbooks and maybe filling a couple of really old holes in my D&D RPG book collection, I'm not seeing WotC/Hasbro selling me much...</p><p></p><p>I have enough (D&D) material to last me a lifetime. Not everyone is in that position and I worry for those that will have to enter that D&D subscription blandness hellscape WotC/Hasbro is planning...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 8870377, member: 725"] I've been playing some form of D&D for ~35 years. I collected a LOT of 2e, I think everything 3e, most of 4e (which I thought lacked imagination), and just the PHB from 5E (which I did like)... With all the other RPGs, miniature games books, etc. I've collected over the past 35 years, my book cases are beyond full. The amount of digital RPG books I've collected (legally) is also quite extensive, especially the recent past has been fruitful of Bundles (Humble & Holding), plus some Kickstarters. During the 4E era I bought D&D books out of some sort of 'obligation' or maybe collectors addiction. I've had some interest in the settings WotC has visited during 5E, but most of those books either go a direction I don't like or are whitewashed to such a degree that it feels Beyond Bland... I might still get the 5E DMG/MM, maybe the same for D&D One (but I doubt it). I do NOT like the new OGL (and I was already not that happy with what they did with 4e/5e OGL/SRD). I recently did buy some (not so) miniatures (D&D), the BIG Tiamat (and a couple of smaller versions) and the Dracoliches, very nice! I do not like D&Ds current Blandness by trying to cater to everyone, but you can't please everyone. The heavy commercialization of D&D also doesn't sit well with me and I suspect that WotC/Hasbro will create a similar hellscape that Magic: The Gathering is currently in... Now, what I'm saying is that I'm not averse to spending a LOT on D&D (now and in the past). But see very little benefit in me spending much more on the actual D&D RPG books. And making stuff for it with the OGL changes I can't ever see happening, why not do a couple of steps back, a pretty open OGL/SRD to build on, and move on from there... Heck, a lot of 3rd party publishers have been generating better stuff then WotC has been producing for a decade (or two)... I'm old (46) and maybe that is the issue? But there are a ton of different current media that I do like. Movies, TV shows, books, computer games, board/card games, etc. But maybe I have an issue with IPs that become a 'brand' that needs to milked into oblivion, and I see that not just being a problem in RPGs... I see that especially with older RPGs (often already have had many editions), like the recent versions of Shadowrun I also don't like, Pathfinder 2E I look at with "Meh!(tm)" eyes, the new World of Darkness RPGs (Vampire, Werewolf, etc.) feel like they threw it all in the washer and threw in a couple of bottles of bleach for good measure, the newer RPGs in the 40k universe also feel like 'less' then the previous versions, etc. I'm curious how the the Balder's Gate 3 game will get reviewed upon release, I might buy it... But mostly I'm now looking at older products for D&D (probably second-hand) instead of the new stuff. And beyond some of the iconic miniatures (like the Draconians), some older board games, maybe some of the old CCG stuff, a couple of artbooks and maybe filling a couple of really old holes in my D&D RPG book collection, I'm not seeing WotC/Hasbro selling me much... I have enough (D&D) material to last me a lifetime. Not everyone is in that position and I worry for those that will have to enter that D&D subscription blandness hellscape WotC/Hasbro is planning... [/QUOTE]
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