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<blockquote data-quote="Xetheral" data-source="post: 8434309" data-attributes="member: 6802765"><p>Thanks for clarifying! Apparently we see the discussion so far quite differently. From my perspective, no one has tried to discard your argument based on disagreeing with your word choice. Instead, as I see it some posters have disagreed with the points they saw you as making based on the wording you chose to communicate those points. If you don't see the choice of "win conditions" vs the choice of "goals" as implying conceptually different arguments, whereas other posters do, then I definitely think there's a communication issue here.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, as above, I'm saying that because you apparently see no substantive difference between "win conditions" and "goals" (because your choice between them was purely rhetorical) and other posters apparently <em>do</em> see a substantive difference between those terms, that's evidence that different posters are using the same terms to refer to different concepts. So long as the same terms are being used differently, we can't know if there is an actual conceptual disagreement underlying the semantic one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Xetheral, post: 8434309, member: 6802765"] Thanks for clarifying! Apparently we see the discussion so far quite differently. From my perspective, no one has tried to discard your argument based on disagreeing with your word choice. Instead, as I see it some posters have disagreed with the points they saw you as making based on the wording you chose to communicate those points. If you don't see the choice of "win conditions" vs the choice of "goals" as implying conceptually different arguments, whereas other posters do, then I definitely think there's a communication issue here. No, as above, I'm saying that because you apparently see no substantive difference between "win conditions" and "goals" (because your choice between them was purely rhetorical) and other posters apparently [I]do[/I] see a substantive difference between those terms, that's evidence that different posters are using the same terms to refer to different concepts. So long as the same terms are being used differently, we can't know if there is an actual conceptual disagreement underlying the semantic one. [/QUOTE]
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