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<blockquote data-quote="hopeless" data-source="post: 5346363" data-attributes="member: 36349"><p><strong>B5 meets Pathfinder</strong></p><p></p><p>Humans= Well can't argue there!</p><p> </p><p>Elves= I'd have split the worker, religious and warrior caste being various types of elves say the High elves being religious, the wood elves the warrior caste and perhaps the grey elves or the like as the worker caste.</p><p> </p><p>Drow= As I posted before I see them as corrupted former servants of the shadow explaining the emnity the result of their bargain with the devil but they could even be used as having been trained to fight their ancient enemy!</p><p> </p><p>Halfling= Centauri their fondness for the finer things of life making them ideal pawns this time round but they do have a resistance that is particularly remarkable.</p><p> </p><p>Dwarves= Narn their stoic nature and inability to change along with a long history as long as the elves mean they know of the Shadow even if they didn't directly deal with them make them ideal figures to direct hate against if they can't get at the elves since their financial dealings and crafting abilities would inspire jealousy and greed towards their wealth</p><p> </p><p>Gnomes= Non-aligned races? Not sure I figure this could be used to describe any number of minor races that might be available even goblins and the like simply shown to have allied with each other against the more prominent races perhaps due to an earlier conflict where they had to seek aid against a more powerful predator that was dealt with but they remain allied as it served their interests to do so whether economical or just because they're afraid of other races preying on them.</p><p>I can see the orc and even hobgoblins being a part of that.</p><p> </p><p>The Shadow: hmm demons and devils do work but since they tend to work through intermediaries perhaps focus on the invisibility angle since they tend to prefer to remain out of sight making fighting them very hard and even more scary when you finally realise they're "there".</p><p>I'd say have an important agent being accompanied by say bone devils but make them more lawful inclined since the more chaotic elements wouldn't resist spreading a little fear and misery where it would be far easier to let them the races do it to themselves with a few words in the right place.</p><p> </p><p>As i recall they initially were reticient because of the losses they suffered during the last great war a thousand years previously so maybe they can't act directly and need intermediaries to prepare the way for when they can.</p><p> </p><p>Say they need loyal subjects powerful enough to create the means for them to invade directly and it would help to have the means to defend themselves from attack before they are ready. say they send out feelers to find suitable allies willing to turn on their people in return for a place in the "new order" of course any promises made may not be kept once they have access and of course they need to know what the populace do know since they have already tried this gambit and it failed last time.</p><p> </p><p>Who knows why it did?</p><p> </p><p>Or maybe their adversaries know more than they're telling and perhaps you should have the Vorlons be something far more unremarkable after all their true forms should be inspiring for those that see them but like their enemy they need to stay out of sight or at least avoid scrutiny as they prepare for what they know is coming...</p><p> </p><p>Hmm, aasimar anyone?</p><p> </p><p>if the shadow use tieflings as their opening agents in power how about the Vorlons use aasimar or even psions as their operatives perhaps something like the Kalashtar where they've infused with corporeal beings to do their work and have developed as a "race" to hide what they're truly there for.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hopeless, post: 5346363, member: 36349"] [b]B5 meets Pathfinder[/b] Humans= Well can't argue there! Elves= I'd have split the worker, religious and warrior caste being various types of elves say the High elves being religious, the wood elves the warrior caste and perhaps the grey elves or the like as the worker caste. Drow= As I posted before I see them as corrupted former servants of the shadow explaining the emnity the result of their bargain with the devil but they could even be used as having been trained to fight their ancient enemy! Halfling= Centauri their fondness for the finer things of life making them ideal pawns this time round but they do have a resistance that is particularly remarkable. Dwarves= Narn their stoic nature and inability to change along with a long history as long as the elves mean they know of the Shadow even if they didn't directly deal with them make them ideal figures to direct hate against if they can't get at the elves since their financial dealings and crafting abilities would inspire jealousy and greed towards their wealth Gnomes= Non-aligned races? Not sure I figure this could be used to describe any number of minor races that might be available even goblins and the like simply shown to have allied with each other against the more prominent races perhaps due to an earlier conflict where they had to seek aid against a more powerful predator that was dealt with but they remain allied as it served their interests to do so whether economical or just because they're afraid of other races preying on them. I can see the orc and even hobgoblins being a part of that. The Shadow: hmm demons and devils do work but since they tend to work through intermediaries perhaps focus on the invisibility angle since they tend to prefer to remain out of sight making fighting them very hard and even more scary when you finally realise they're "there". I'd say have an important agent being accompanied by say bone devils but make them more lawful inclined since the more chaotic elements wouldn't resist spreading a little fear and misery where it would be far easier to let them the races do it to themselves with a few words in the right place. As i recall they initially were reticient because of the losses they suffered during the last great war a thousand years previously so maybe they can't act directly and need intermediaries to prepare the way for when they can. Say they need loyal subjects powerful enough to create the means for them to invade directly and it would help to have the means to defend themselves from attack before they are ready. say they send out feelers to find suitable allies willing to turn on their people in return for a place in the "new order" of course any promises made may not be kept once they have access and of course they need to know what the populace do know since they have already tried this gambit and it failed last time. Who knows why it did? Or maybe their adversaries know more than they're telling and perhaps you should have the Vorlons be something far more unremarkable after all their true forms should be inspiring for those that see them but like their enemy they need to stay out of sight or at least avoid scrutiny as they prepare for what they know is coming... Hmm, aasimar anyone? if the shadow use tieflings as their opening agents in power how about the Vorlons use aasimar or even psions as their operatives perhaps something like the Kalashtar where they've infused with corporeal beings to do their work and have developed as a "race" to hide what they're truly there for. [/QUOTE]
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