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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8991689" data-attributes="member: 6877472"><p>The problem is that "priests of a specific mythoi" and "specialty priests" aren't exactly interchangeable; in fact, "specialty priest" doesn't even exist as a term in the PHB. In addition, each book that discusses priests, kits, and multiclassing combinations in general has it's own rules, making it kind of a mess to figure out what should or should not be allowed.</p><p></p><p>I did acknowledge that COYOTE THIEF! was not something most tables would approve of, exactly due to things like this. When looking at Legends and Lore, do remember that this book isn't about demihuman deities; if the priesthood calls out that you can multiclass it states that this is an exception to the rules about humans not being allowed to multiclass.</p><p></p><p>Monster Mythology will say that some gods have priest/thieves, but it's not written as a prohibition that priests cannot multiclass, but instead offers it as an option; Garl Glittergold is my example:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]281872[/ATTACH]</p><p>You'll note is never says "Garl's priests can be priest/thieves", it says that this is an option, and you can totally be a priest of Garl and not be; the granted Powers take this into account.</p><p></p><p>Given that Complete Priests tells us that Cleric is busted and should be removed as an option, some have speculated that TSR expected us to make our own unique priesthoods and put the Cleric in as a placeholder. OTOH, rather than sticking to the party line of more balanced priesthoods as defined in Complete Priests, TSR actually did the opposite, and made specialty priests stronger over time, until we got to the Forgotten Realms priesthoods, who were eventually designed as separate classes with their own xp tables (similar to the Druid, who is...and is not...a priest).</p><p></p><p>TLDR: different books say different things. What books are used in your game, and how your DM rules always varies. Later books explicitly override the PHB, but your DM always has the final say.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8991689, member: 6877472"] The problem is that "priests of a specific mythoi" and "specialty priests" aren't exactly interchangeable; in fact, "specialty priest" doesn't even exist as a term in the PHB. In addition, each book that discusses priests, kits, and multiclassing combinations in general has it's own rules, making it kind of a mess to figure out what should or should not be allowed. I did acknowledge that COYOTE THIEF! was not something most tables would approve of, exactly due to things like this. When looking at Legends and Lore, do remember that this book isn't about demihuman deities; if the priesthood calls out that you can multiclass it states that this is an exception to the rules about humans not being allowed to multiclass. Monster Mythology will say that some gods have priest/thieves, but it's not written as a prohibition that priests cannot multiclass, but instead offers it as an option; Garl Glittergold is my example: [ATTACH type="full"]281872[/ATTACH] You'll note is never says "Garl's priests can be priest/thieves", it says that this is an option, and you can totally be a priest of Garl and not be; the granted Powers take this into account. Given that Complete Priests tells us that Cleric is busted and should be removed as an option, some have speculated that TSR expected us to make our own unique priesthoods and put the Cleric in as a placeholder. OTOH, rather than sticking to the party line of more balanced priesthoods as defined in Complete Priests, TSR actually did the opposite, and made specialty priests stronger over time, until we got to the Forgotten Realms priesthoods, who were eventually designed as separate classes with their own xp tables (similar to the Druid, who is...and is not...a priest). TLDR: different books say different things. What books are used in your game, and how your DM rules always varies. Later books explicitly override the PHB, but your DM always has the final say. [/QUOTE]
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