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<blockquote data-quote="Thramzorean" data-source="post: 3203156" data-attributes="member: 17243"><p>I've always assumed only the entity can act, as directed by the conductor: the conductor getting access to the power point pool, the pooled powers and the bonus on his/her DC, the base ML and DC being set by the conductor. But it's a knotty power with issues when you look at it in depth. That's one point that could be stated more clearly. Another is the actual manifester level of the entity and the primary attribute DC used - again I've always assumed the conductor's as being the logical route but there's nothing said about the manifester level and you could assume you get no primary attribute DC, only the entity bonus from participant numbers (but that seems one very sticky point, you could end up with a lower DC than the manifester in many applications and very high ones in groups like ours). I tried to make a PrC once based on this and it was not easy. But good for us with Schisms, then we can run up some really tough DC save or die powers like Fuse Flesh while still operating as individuals. With Laevictus being conductor (34 int ouch!) not having schism itself then we're bad news in a metaconcert. Another point with it is that by the RAW we could when schismed actually count as 2 individuals in the total pool if we put in all the partitioned minds. The is reasonable, the second schism is a completely separate entity in itself by the power descriptor. And we're bad news again. Some thorny points for our dear DM to work through.. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>Might get back to WotC Cust Serv on this. Always meant to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thramzorean, post: 3203156, member: 17243"] I've always assumed only the entity can act, as directed by the conductor: the conductor getting access to the power point pool, the pooled powers and the bonus on his/her DC, the base ML and DC being set by the conductor. But it's a knotty power with issues when you look at it in depth. That's one point that could be stated more clearly. Another is the actual manifester level of the entity and the primary attribute DC used - again I've always assumed the conductor's as being the logical route but there's nothing said about the manifester level and you could assume you get no primary attribute DC, only the entity bonus from participant numbers (but that seems one very sticky point, you could end up with a lower DC than the manifester in many applications and very high ones in groups like ours). I tried to make a PrC once based on this and it was not easy. But good for us with Schisms, then we can run up some really tough DC save or die powers like Fuse Flesh while still operating as individuals. With Laevictus being conductor (34 int ouch!) not having schism itself then we're bad news in a metaconcert. Another point with it is that by the RAW we could when schismed actually count as 2 individuals in the total pool if we put in all the partitioned minds. The is reasonable, the second schism is a completely separate entity in itself by the power descriptor. And we're bad news again. Some thorny points for our dear DM to work through.. :p :lol: Might get back to WotC Cust Serv on this. Always meant to. [/QUOTE]
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