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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9328816" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Except <em>I didn't say that and never did</em>.</p><p></p><p>I said I would lose the enthusiasm to play in THAT CAMPAIGN if my character in THAT CAMPAIGN died. I've literally never said anything like what you just described.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends! If I was deeply invested in a particular character and that specific character died, yeah, I might lose interest. If I wasn't that invested, probably not.</p><p></p><p>I stopped watching superhero movies for reasons entirely unrelated to whether characters die. (Mostly, related to serious writing flaws on the Marvel end, and the fact that DC keeps assigning directors who <em>don't like the superheroes they're portraying and don't understand why anyone would like them</em>.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Except I do. A universe that just kills off Superman permanently and irrevocably is not a universe I'm interested in paying attention to. That's just the fact of the matter. Killed off Superman, he's never coming back? Neither am I.</p><p></p><p>Do it as an "elseworld" noble sacrifice? Cool, that's a great scene that lets us see new sides of his character. Do it in a way that he's (clearly) not <em>actually</em> dead, but will have to deal with some consequences for a while? Sure, plenty of great stories have done that. <em>Justice League</em> did an amazing two-parter with that exact premise. Have him truly dead, but his friends and the world he inspired to be better rise up and find a way to bring him back? Haven't seen that before, that sounds like a wonderful continuation of a series where Superman gets to actually show why "paragon" characters matter. Etc.</p><p></p><p>But just killing off Superman permanently, never ever coming back, sorry guys it's for real this time? Nah. Miss me with that. I'll go back to the media that actually lets me see my second-favorite superhero doing what he does best: saving people and inspiring them.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No. It is simply one <em>possible</em> part of human drama. It's not the only one. It's not even necessarily a <em>good</em> one--sometimes it is. Sometimes it is not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9328816, member: 6790260"] Except [I]I didn't say that and never did[/I]. I said I would lose the enthusiasm to play in THAT CAMPAIGN if my character in THAT CAMPAIGN died. I've literally never said anything like what you just described. Depends! If I was deeply invested in a particular character and that specific character died, yeah, I might lose interest. If I wasn't that invested, probably not. I stopped watching superhero movies for reasons entirely unrelated to whether characters die. (Mostly, related to serious writing flaws on the Marvel end, and the fact that DC keeps assigning directors who [I]don't like the superheroes they're portraying and don't understand why anyone would like them[/I].) Except I do. A universe that just kills off Superman permanently and irrevocably is not a universe I'm interested in paying attention to. That's just the fact of the matter. Killed off Superman, he's never coming back? Neither am I. Do it as an "elseworld" noble sacrifice? Cool, that's a great scene that lets us see new sides of his character. Do it in a way that he's (clearly) not [I]actually[/I] dead, but will have to deal with some consequences for a while? Sure, plenty of great stories have done that. [I]Justice League[/I] did an amazing two-parter with that exact premise. Have him truly dead, but his friends and the world he inspired to be better rise up and find a way to bring him back? Haven't seen that before, that sounds like a wonderful continuation of a series where Superman gets to actually show why "paragon" characters matter. Etc. But just killing off Superman permanently, never ever coming back, sorry guys it's for real this time? Nah. Miss me with that. I'll go back to the media that actually lets me see my second-favorite superhero doing what he does best: saving people and inspiring them. No. It is simply one [I]possible[/I] part of human drama. It's not the only one. It's not even necessarily a [I]good[/I] one--sometimes it is. Sometimes it is not. [/QUOTE]
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