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<blockquote data-quote="GKEnialb" data-source="post: 8232130" data-attributes="member: 7028721"><p>This isn't my favorite of the improved classes. I agree with a bunch of what's already been said, so I'll quote my strongest agreements:</p><p></p><p></p><p>This really just seems like making a change just for the purpose of making a change (and complicating it in the process). Since warlocks were already unique and sorcerers are very similar to wizards, it may have been better to keep the warlock spell style similar to O5E and use this spell points style for sorcerers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It's confusing that the general term for invocations is "Eldritch Invocation" but the name of one of the tags is also "Eldritch", which you don't get until later. Presumably you can only choose an untagged invocation when you choose an "any" invocation, but really should be more clear, since the word "any" implies any and the text says "you gain an eldritch invocation of your choice" with no stipulation that it can't be tagged. Other posters interpreted this the opposite of how I did, which proves it's unclear (to me). This just adds confusion with no benefit that I can see.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is great.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Agree that it needs to be nerfed, even if just something like you don't know the creature type.</p><p></p><p><strong>Pact of the chain: </strong>does the familiar have to be within reach of the primary and secondary target to have both effects or can the warlock be within range of one and the familiar in range of the other and affect both targets?</p><p></p><p><strong>Eldritch Ingot (et al):</strong> This may be the only use of multiplication other than random character weight. If your proficiency is 3, why not have 3d10 instead of 1d10*3 to be more consistent?</p><p></p><p><strong>Patron Token</strong> is very cool.</p><p></p><p><strong>Exploration Knacks</strong>: Good job again with these, especially Mirror Mirror. Exploration Knacks really add to the diversity of play. I don't have an issue with some of the O5E invocations becoming knacks - they fit in well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GKEnialb, post: 8232130, member: 7028721"] This isn't my favorite of the improved classes. I agree with a bunch of what's already been said, so I'll quote my strongest agreements: This really just seems like making a change just for the purpose of making a change (and complicating it in the process). Since warlocks were already unique and sorcerers are very similar to wizards, it may have been better to keep the warlock spell style similar to O5E and use this spell points style for sorcerers. It's confusing that the general term for invocations is "Eldritch Invocation" but the name of one of the tags is also "Eldritch", which you don't get until later. Presumably you can only choose an untagged invocation when you choose an "any" invocation, but really should be more clear, since the word "any" implies any and the text says "you gain an eldritch invocation of your choice" with no stipulation that it can't be tagged. Other posters interpreted this the opposite of how I did, which proves it's unclear (to me). This just adds confusion with no benefit that I can see. This is great. Agree that it needs to be nerfed, even if just something like you don't know the creature type. [B]Pact of the chain: [/B]does the familiar have to be within reach of the primary and secondary target to have both effects or can the warlock be within range of one and the familiar in range of the other and affect both targets? [B]Eldritch Ingot (et al):[/B] This may be the only use of multiplication other than random character weight. If your proficiency is 3, why not have 3d10 instead of 1d10*3 to be more consistent? [B]Patron Token[/B] is very cool. [B]Exploration Knacks[/B]: Good job again with these, especially Mirror Mirror. Exploration Knacks really add to the diversity of play. I don't have an issue with some of the O5E invocations becoming knacks - they fit in well. [/QUOTE]
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