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<blockquote data-quote="Balsamic Dragon" data-source="post: 275185" data-attributes="member: 2433"><p>Hmmm, I think what both this system and SKR's system fail to account for is that these commoners are not facing their travails of life alone!</p><p></p><p>There is merit to the argument that getting the crops in and surviving harsh winters and such should earn experience points in the same way that fighting kobalds does. BUT, these experienced points are earned, and thus divided, by the entire community, in the same way that the experience earned by fighting kobalds are divided among the party.</p><p></p><p>A community of farmers, for example, will have at least 15-20 people (and that's for a very small farming community). These will be mostly commoners, some of whom are children or elderly, some who plant, some who cook, some who guard the chicken coop in case of kobalds <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But even assuming that to survive a year is a CR 2 encounter, those xp are divided 15-20 ways! </p><p></p><p>Thus, I have no problem with most commoners being very low level, even those of advanced age. If granma was a chicken coop guard in her youth and had to fight off kobalds with naught but a slingshot and a pitchfork, then maybe she is a bit higher level. But for just bringing in the crops, I would say that no commoner would reach higher than about 3rd or 4th.</p><p></p><p>Balsamic Dragon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Balsamic Dragon, post: 275185, member: 2433"] Hmmm, I think what both this system and SKR's system fail to account for is that these commoners are not facing their travails of life alone! There is merit to the argument that getting the crops in and surviving harsh winters and such should earn experience points in the same way that fighting kobalds does. BUT, these experienced points are earned, and thus divided, by the entire community, in the same way that the experience earned by fighting kobalds are divided among the party. A community of farmers, for example, will have at least 15-20 people (and that's for a very small farming community). These will be mostly commoners, some of whom are children or elderly, some who plant, some who cook, some who guard the chicken coop in case of kobalds :) But even assuming that to survive a year is a CR 2 encounter, those xp are divided 15-20 ways! Thus, I have no problem with most commoners being very low level, even those of advanced age. If granma was a chicken coop guard in her youth and had to fight off kobalds with naught but a slingshot and a pitchfork, then maybe she is a bit higher level. But for just bringing in the crops, I would say that no commoner would reach higher than about 3rd or 4th. Balsamic Dragon [/QUOTE]
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