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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8840385" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>That's a pretty damming admission of failure on 5e's part delivered with a grin. This came up because of discussions over how 5e forces the gm to pickup & carry the weight of gamist elements by taking such efforts to avoid those too. Piling on the idea that the gm doesn't need to be supported in doing that either would be a pretty nakedly hostile design choice if it were accurate.</p><p></p><p>Seeing this go from "by avoiding [everything forge says about system design] so hard it just dumps the burden of being so on someone..." in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839088" target="_blank">492</a>, followed by <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839430" target="_blank">494</a> have you tried talking to people &<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839443" target="_blank">495</a> the system actually removed tools once present to support the gm in these <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839873" target="_blank">496</a> the system doesn't need to support the gm so quickly might be a record.</p><p></p><p></p><p> It's also a stellar example of the sort of hostility that GM's can expect from 5e & one where one-d&d needs to do dramatically better with less reliance on magic pixie dust. Like <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbEeU2dRBg" target="_blank">the commercial</a> said, ""There is no magic pixie dust.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8840385, member: 93670"] That's a pretty damming admission of failure on 5e's part delivered with a grin. This came up because of discussions over how 5e forces the gm to pickup & carry the weight of gamist elements by taking such efforts to avoid those too. Piling on the idea that the gm doesn't need to be supported in doing that either would be a pretty nakedly hostile design choice if it were accurate. Seeing this go from "by avoiding [everything forge says about system design] so hard it just dumps the burden of being so on someone..." in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839088']492[/URL], followed by [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839430']494[/URL] have you tried talking to people &[URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839443']495[/URL] the system actually removed tools once present to support the gm in these [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/combat-as-war-sport-or.693192/post-8839873']496[/URL] the system doesn't need to support the gm so quickly might be a record. It's also a stellar example of the sort of hostility that GM's can expect from 5e & one where one-d&d needs to do dramatically better with less reliance on magic pixie dust. Like [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nbEeU2dRBg']the commercial[/URL] said, ""There is no magic pixie dust. [/QUOTE]
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