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See I dont see 1st anymore RP than 3rd. "Conan attacks the goblin" and "I attack the goblin" are essentially resolved the same way with game mechanics in most games. Now, if you want to say a game that has a simple resolution mechanic that is used frequently could be less gamey than a complex...

I can see that, but its the opposite for me. 5E game part isn't interesting enough.

I see what you are saying now, but still disagree with it. I think that is a separate discussion on role play itself.

Cant say I agree. I dont understand how 3rd person is game, and 1st person is role play? Could you expand on this idea?

The question isn't removing the G, its how much G is too much G.

Like 3-4 Reaper Bones Kickstarters where I have painted 3-4 total minis.

Come back for the "we were all fooled" follow up video.

So...that made sense to you before clicking post reply?

Its cool if they do, and it sucks if they dont. Either way, im not going to make a deal about it.

I know, right? Which is why I am gonna put till dears in the beginning!

As much as I want to agree, I find its all relative. For example, I find Aces and Eights based on Hackmaster to be infinitely too mechanical to be a good RPG for me. However, my current favorite fantasy RPG is PF1. Though, if I think about it, if it was released today it would probably be too...

When folks see TL;DR do you think "too long; didnt read" out, or do you do what I do and think "till dear"?

I could see some folks worrying that with an upfront TL;DR, then their post wont be read, but thats the point of a TL;DR anyway.

I'm to blame. I put a TL;DR in the front instead of the back and didnt label it.

RP is such a nebulous term and I think most folks would fail at putting the boundaries on it that they have an easier time of doing with game elements. I do think you need some base rules to have a game, and there is no limit that stops one from being an RPG. I, personally, have my limits of too...

...or you could see the topic being the bold question which is the TL;DR and the following paragraph my answer to it. Whats yours?

How much game is too much game in an RPG? I think that answer is going to differ depending on the person. Personally, I have a pretty liberal definition of what role playing is. I do think many video and board games absolutely apply. In fact you have to get down to the Tetris level of game...

It's...ok. Funny at first, but sort of wheel spinning with a reset each season. Falling into bad TV habits (I blame Amazon for this its a problem with all their programming).

Depends. I have one for my RPG buddies. Its only 6 of us. It works great for organizing games, asking each other questions, etc.. I also belong to a local gaming discord that has 100+ members. I'd say about 12 post regularly and it stays pretty manageable. Folks tend to respect the channel...

Im not sure how to separate these. They dont sound much different than D&D to me. Mark me as another for the "indie" game tag.