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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    This is why Intelligence always ends up overpowered.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Exactly. And the sad part is, WOTC had good ideas for it in the No-Spells Ranger. Poultices were simplistic but that could have easily translated into something more substantive. Course, everybody and their mother called that class overpowered, as though it still wasn't dwarfed by the sheer...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Or perhaps I'm just not easily convinced, especially when one is deliberately refusing to have a conversation. It surely does occur to you that may be I actually like discussing these things and would rather see people try harder rather than circling the drain just reiterating the same points...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    You should check yourself. I match the tone of people I speak to, which is a flaw I admit. I even do it in real life and it makes the fact that I mostly worked customer service really damn hard. But ultimately, I'm never the one whose bringing it first. (Most of the time anyway. Not like I've...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Yet, you seem very keen on trying to squash the view point instead of, I don't know, ignoring it. Do you expect someone to change their mind when your only substantive response to them has been to shut up?
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    It is fascinating how nobody really wants to acknowledge that may be how 5e does things is bad and is part and parcel to why this topic even exists. If you want to talk about justifying the Ranger, you can't stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to address how 5e works and how that makes...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    I mean yeah, thanks for proving the point.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    I've already highlighted twice that how DND defines magic is stupid and constantly complained about. You're not making some revelatory point here. Did I say that? Was I being vague in what I thought was a straightforward and unambiguous statement? Rhetorical questions, obviously, don't start...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    The joke was in reference to Hobbits, given I was previously talking about them being entirely ignorant to what was or wasn't magic. And what I and the other person were discussing is what happened in Lord of the Rings. Yes, he wrote Aragorn saying he was doing those things. He also wrote...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Asimov's Fantasy stories weren't sci-fi pretending to be fantasy, however, so one has to take that quote with a grain of salt. He was talking about the dynamics of pushing sci-fi beyond the near future or super realistic.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    The point, as its not being made clear enough, is that you fundamentally limit where you can go when you insist on basing whats mundane or not on the real world. One of my personal ideas for a Ranger capability is sending messages on the wind. Sure, that's an impossible magic thing in the real...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Im pretty sure you've expressed that you get the idea of immersing yourself, though now I suppose I'll have to second guess that.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    No, it doesn't. If you can't conceive of accepting that a different reality has nothing to do with how our real world works then thats a shame, given thats the entire point of fantasy worldbuilding. You're approaching it as though its science fiction and expecting things to be based in how our...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Let me introduce you to Warlord Discourse 2.0
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    Naturally I disagree. As I said originally, theres a different aesthetic at play when we call something uncanny vs magical, and the same extends to supernatural. One can choose to not put any value in the differences, but that doesn't mean they're not there or that everything has to be...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    *if you're an ignorant hole person. It isn't supernatural, however. Not in Middle-Earth.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    No, he didn't. And Tolkien acknowledged in one of his letters that Men are never supposed to be able to use Magic. It was actually a mistake he made in describing Numenor; so if the Numenorians weren't supposed to be spellcasters, Aragorn sure as hell isn't. DND idiosyncrasies are irrelevant...
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    One not appreciating the aesthetic differences between the uncanny and the magical doesn't make it magic.
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    D&D 5E Convince me that the Ranger is a necessary Class.

    No, he did not. Aragorn has an uncanny skill as a healer because he was destined to, and thats derived from his backstory being effectively raised by Elves. People don't often understand or even realize that much of what we see as "magical" in LOTR is just uncanny skill. Things like Lembas...
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