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So, as I said, not the majority (arrays are just standardized point buys in the end; they're still not random).

I understand that's important to some people. But given they're going to not be arranged identically all the time, I don't find any virtue in diversity of scores for its own sake, and certainly nothing to balance its downsides.

If that happens, but that's a big if. Its rare for all the die rolls to land within the normal point buy scheme. In addition, some results from the die roll would be extremely unlikely to be chosen by someone using the point buy because they're too painful.

Or, he can, you know, just accept that he doesn't need to be the final word in absolutely everything in the game. That's not required to run a game. As for walking away--of course he can. Same as any player. But no one assumes a player will always do that every time they lose an argument...

If you're knowledgable in economics, you've got to know that assuming rational actors is, in reality, a failure state.

I'll admit it sometimes takes me an additional cycle or two before I notice circling has started happening and I bail.

I can see that one. Honestly I can see a lot of that on big ticket things of that nature. But the question is, let's say its something smaller scale? Do you insist on the last word on it? (At least as an alternate to pulling the plug). If not, that doesn't seem the position of a lot of...

I think if you think that will be read generally as "No other race" (as far as visual/biological structure goes) "will be permitted under any circumstances" you've been playing with the same people who you know well for too long. You can always stop responding to me if you don't want to...

Though uncommon (and I know someone will come along and claim its not possible for this to work without degenerate results, but I suspect that's just expectation rather than any logic), I'd be very cautious to assume that's true at every table everywhere, ever. There is nothing whatsoever I...

Yeah, the point really is that the random roll is less likely to get to a balanced result, not that there's some magical quality of the result itself that's different.

I'd say they probably should, and probably the secret vote is the ideal way, yes. I understand the feeling the GM should have more weight in the decision making than an individual player. What I've questioned before is whether they should have more weight than all, or even a majority of them...

I'd have to see the exact phrasing before I assumed that's as clear as you seem to think it is here.

Well, I suspect that's because the three specific results situation seemed to be missing the point. Other than assuming the process in the point distribution and array methods may have been at least somewhat thought through (though how well can be debated in any specific case)? Not really.

This kind of ignores the fact that it was not at all uncommon for the editing on those products to be really bad. Sometimes obviously so. in the cases where it wasn't, it was often because said publishers either happen to be decent editors themselves (something not everyone creative is) or bit...

Part of the problem is that the people making public access AIs have taught them to, effectively, try and make their end users happy. Not only are they not good at sorting the wheat from the chaff (because they don't have any sort of good criteria for doing so with massive amounts of online...

Especially since I rather specifically wasn't talking about it in the context of unregulated nonfiction usage, but as an interim pass tool in fiction and the like. The answer to that was somewhat of a nonsequitor.

I suspect most people care far less about this issue with coding than what's considered the artistic part of products, except those who are simply hostile to AI in principal. Note there's question as to whether that means what you think it means here. The reporting on that particular case has...

And there's the problem; I'm not convinced at least two of those three cases is true. Many artists works don't look particularly original or interesting to me, and some of what I've seen from Generative AI does. So either its a simple case of taste being different, or the fact people knowing...

You're not required to, however if you didn't want me to make assumptions about your take on it "fallacy" is not exactly a connotationally neutral word to use. As such, I have to conclude you think one of the two cases I mentioned applied; if you didn't want that you made no effort to avoid it.

That's my point though; there was no compromise possible because what you both thought important was the central point. That doesn't make what you did necessarily in the wrong, but when a player comes in with something like that, that doesn't mean they are necessarily in the wrong, either...