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The Rogue framework served me well through multiple incarnations. My last one could have gone through another iteration or more for sure. I liked that the subclass framework was just meaty enough to add lots of flavour to my various subclass ideas. And we could always use another class with...

BOOOORING. We don't "need" anything, but we WANT more than the 4 core races. That's enough justification.

We had both in 4e. Pretty sure the Warlocks are in the PHB because of 4e. We could always switch to Warmaster.

I'm certain there's also a corporate push to elevate races they can actually trademark.

Boooooooh! So tired of the Caster bias.

I'm still thinking of going back to creating a Warlord. My last attempts were using the ROGUE progression as a framework, because I think it would be cool to have another class with At-Will only abilities in the core class. But I'm really interested in the Warlock's mix-and-match framework right...

I hink we decided 5e is too selfish an edition for a team player class? Or that it smells too much of 4e? It can be the best class in the world at high level, but if it's not good at the levels people actually play, then it's simply not a good class.

Yeah but I'm getting those spells at level 3, Not at high level. A lot of people never play at high level. I've never gone past level and I don't care how good the class gets at level 15 or whatever. I want it to be good at the level I play it. Casters have built in fun stuff: SPELLS. Nah, if...

I was thinking Max +X actually. Like a Barbarian could have 14+CON mod (Max+2+CON) while a Fighter 12+CON mod.

I was also thinking about how the game gives you 'max Dice + CON mod' at level one and maybe it doesn't need to always be max dice, so you could have guys with the same Hit Die but different starting HP.

So if they don't do anything cool? If they ignore a ton of other class features? Like my aforementioned Shadow Monks never casting any of their spells that cost Ki. Another exemple of 'do the efficient thing and not the FUN thing'. So we've established that FOB is bad and Step of the Wind is...

Nah, not specifically unarmored defense, just ditch DEX entirely from the calc. Your AC is now Armor+INT or Armor+WIS or Armor+CHA. And sometimes +Shield. That way you can have the medium armored strategist at the back that's still not too squishy. I think it works great aesthetically. And you...

It's not permanant if you can run out of dodges. Also, you don't have the HP of a Fighter and you rarely stun opponents. That's a huge gamble because the Monk does NOT have good hit points. It also feels like an important aesthetic decision when handing out proficiencies to a class. Heavy...

And that's not taking into account the Cleric gets acces to Cantrips, including the out of combat power house Guidance, and rituals.

Why is it not a 1 v 1 game then? Why do we have parties? When we complain that a class is too OP we constantly get told that 'balance doesn't matter', 'this is a team game' and so forth... but IS IT a team game or not? Well, if we look at 4e, the Warlord had proficiency in Cloth, Leather, Hide...

There's a bunch of posibility. Could bean at-will commander's strike, some sort of passive 'presence' buff, something like 'if you hit someone, the next attack against them gains X', a bonus action to maneuver allies around, some sort of temp HP generation, or maybe your choice from any of...

Sometimes, the enemy going out of their way to avoid triggering your mark is just as important as them triggering it at all. It's something you have to realize as a Defender: most of the time, you won't get to use the Mark ability, but it's okay because it means the enemy is changing its...

It's not an action, it doesn't need to advance the game state. Or you get a crit.

I could see some verson of the Warlord handing out extra temp HP alongside the recovery of their allies. I could see the recovery of HD being tied to their 'presence' attribute (like, your allies regain stat mod HD on top of the normal HD recovery)

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