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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Not literally. It's a cultural reference. Enough so that there's ascii art for it. The point is that "bear it until you just have to leave" is... short sighted and immature. Adults talk things through before they become unbearable or crises, if at all possible.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Great. Good for you.
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    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    And, in my own observation, there's a persistent idea that folks need to "deserve" help to get it, and goodness help us if anyone who doesn't "deserve" it gets a red cent. That's why I put up that bit about the Foglios. They don't need justification to ask, but I could perhaps forestall...
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    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    The Foglios once donated a handsome prize to a charity auction my wife was running at a local sci-fi convention. They helped us raise thousands of dollars for breast cancer research, probably the most successful charity event in the history of that convention. So, yeah, they get to ask for help.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    What's the old saying? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone? And, what's the other, newer, saying? Don't make it personal? This line of discussion starts to read like, "I can dodge/dismiss your points, because you are so strident," which isn't appropriate.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    So, as written, this can seem like, "Grin and bear it until it is too much, and then throw a hissy-fit, flip the table and walk out." Before, "you just leave," there really ought to be some, "attempt to talk through the issues like mature adults," that isn't mentioned here. Unless you're...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Everyone is strident now and again.
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    Green Ronin Crowdfunding Legal Defense Fund In Fight Against Diamond Distrubutors

    This, in a nutshell. It is very crummy to ask for help under false pretenses, of course. But, if you need it, there shouldn't be a problem with asking for, or giving, help.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    I am speaking it aloud before any play begins, but then probably not in the moment. For example, I generally reserve the right to occasionally fudge dice rolls. I do not generally announce when I am doing so in play. Occasionally, but most often not. They allow me my judgement. I have...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    The word "appropriate" did some lifting in my statement. For example, there are social sciences that are not appropriate for use as the basis for generalizations to be applied to current, living people, or used as the basis for current social policy, and the like.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    For example, by setting expectations in something like a Session Zero. For every campaign, even with my regular group who have been playing with me variously for a decade or two, I first poll the players for their preferences, and then inform them of what deviations from strict adherence to...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    And the player would have continued to argue. Because - and let us remember the real point - players don't always take the GM's word as gospel. While they might usually do so, it cannot be assumed, and our thoughts on GMing and games need to include the less-than-optimal situations.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Enlightenment. Yep. Go to University. Get a doctorate in an appropriate social science.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    With respect, social science folks are very clever, and can extract data from what looks like anecdotes. But, also, yes - social sciences in the past have gotten it very wrong, to the harm of peoples in the past. So, being aware of the limitations of your information, and how far you should...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Sometimes. But, in this case, the player was trying to use their own knowledge to get information their character shouldn't have had. And in other times... ...look, I'm a physicist. You ask me how things really work, and it will kill your scifi game faster than you can say "Schwartzchild...
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Garbage in, garbage out. If all you have to work with is bad, then you admit you don't have the information you need, rather than come to erroneous conclusions. Folks are way, waaay, too reluctant to say, "I don't know." But saying that is fundamental to actual progress.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    You can't assume, that, though. You might be playing in the setting of Larry Niven's The Integral Trees, in which folks aren't living on a planetary surface at all. There can be Type-1 facts, but you have to elucidate which ones they are.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Oh, no they aint! Look, there's a whole lot that a credible researcher does to support the integrity of data that regular people just don't do with anecdotes. Like, record them individually and separately, with accompanying metadata.
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    D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

    Excellent. I want to be a prophet about as much as Kirk wanted to be an Admiral.
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