D&D General Nolzur creates inclusive miniatures, people can't handle it.

MichaelSomething · Oct 3, 2023

Of course a regular wheelchair would have trouble in rough terrain. That's why you buy the +1 Wheelchair of Sliding.

Charlaquin · Oct 3, 2023

Umbran said:
We are talking about a situation at the gaming table - the "we" is with the person who is apt to be offended present, an active participant and collaborator. "We" don't have to police this for everyone in all games at once.

I mean, I was talking about Avatar: the Last Airbender, but go off I guess.

Charlaquin · Oct 3, 2023

Alzrius said:
I haven't watched Avatar in some time, but I thought that part of the reason she became so good at earthbending was because she was using it all the time to compensate for her lack of visual ability.

That’s correct.

Bagpuss · Oct 3, 2023

Krachek said:
I see no more verisimilitude problem than for Charles Xavier.

Who spends most of his time in a school, or paved areas until he gets his flying chair.

Krachek said:
As the party level up the cleric will have a levitating wheel chair.

Which stops being a wheelchair and becomes a levitation device which isn't generally accepted as representation of a wheelchair, more a magic fix. But some folks might be okay with it.

Krachek said:
For healing magic the DM could state that for this specific curse it don’t work. that’s it.

Oooh disability being a curse... some preachers say that now and it isn't a good look, still some folks might be okay with that.

Which is why being a sensitive topic it is best sorted with the individuals involved.

Sacrosanct · Oct 3, 2023

Look folks, Prof X's biggest issue isn't being in a wheelchair or not. It's being a telepath/mind reader who influences your brain who moves a ton of teenagers into his house.

That's...pretty creepy.

Staffan · Oct 3, 2023

Sacrosanct said:
Look folks, Prof X's biggest issue isn't being in a wheelchair or not. It's being a telepath/mind reader who influences your brain who moves a ton of teenagers into his house.

That's...pretty creepy.

Known facts:

bedir than · Oct 4, 2023

Umbran said:
There's also a big issue that a lot of folks will raise various complaints when, for them, it is a hypothetical. They don't have a disabled person at their table, ever, but are raising mechanical complaints about wheelchair implementations they will never use. That's going to come off as inappropriate, too.

I'd find it rather surprising that most tables don't have a disabled person at them.

They almost certainly do, it's just that Western society sees glasses as a common aid now.
And the same people who complain about verisimilitude with a wheelchairs will do the same about glasses if they appear on minis - despite them being real and functional.

MGibster · Oct 4, 2023

At some point, verisimilitude went right out the door with D&D. Someone wants to have a character with a wheelchair? It's not going to break my immersion any more than a 30 pound halfling wrestling a 280 pound goliath to the ground will.

MGibster · Oct 4, 2023

bedir than said:
I'd find it rather surprising that most tables don't have a disabled person at them.

They almost certainly do, it's just that Western society sees glasses as a common aid now.
And the same people who complain about verisimilitude with a wheelchairs will do the same about glasses if they appear on minis - despite them being real and functional.

In employment law, a disability is typically defined as a physical or mental impairment that greatly that greatly limits one or more major life activity. This is the definition I typically use in my day-to-day life as well. I have a regular player at my table who was sight impaired to the point where she was legally blind (she's gotten better since then with medical care). I wear corrective lenses, but I'd feel like a jerk telling her I was also disabled.

bedir than · Oct 4, 2023

MGibster said:
In employment law, a disability is typically defined as a physical or mental impairment that greatly that greatly limits one or more major life activity. This is the definition I typically use in my day-to-day life as well. I have a regular player at my table who was sight impaired to the point where she was legally blind (she's gotten better since then with medical care). I wear corrective lenses, but I'd feel like a jerk telling her I was also disabled.

Disabled roleplaying players and the Special Forces soldiers I served with are more accepting of my extraordinarily thick corrective lenses (to the point where I can't count fingers on a hand five feet away) than generic RPG fans are of corrective lenses on my characters.

It's rather absurd the gatekeeping in RPGs is greater than the gate keeping in one of the most elite units in any military.

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