Survivor (Non-PHB) Feats: FEY TELEPORTATION WINS!

doctorbadwolf said:

But even those aren’t as fun as Wood Elf Magic, IMO.

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Gradine said:

That one won the last non-PHB feat survivor, so I'm not terribly shocked by it getting dogpiled. I still don't understand why everyone dogpiled Aberrant Dragonmark, though.

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Phazonfish said:

Revenant Blade 16 - If you haven't heard of this weapon + feat, it gives you all the things you assumed you already had when discussing using a weapon, like the ability to attack with a weapon in your off-hand or the ability to attack with Dex on a non-heavy weapon. At least it's a half feat I guess?

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Paul Farquhar said:

Congratulations, this is almost completely wrong.

Firstly, the 1d4 bonus action attack is not an off hand weapon, so you don't need Two Weapon Fighting in order to add your ability score to damage.

Secondly, it's a 2H weapon, so it benefits from the Great Weapon fighting style, which is especially strong with 2d4, increasing the average damage from 5 to 6, and the bonus action damage from 2.5 to 3.

With the feat, it gives the finesse property to the weapon, enabling sneak attack and elven accuracy. It's comparable to the Duel Wielder Feat with 2 rapiers (4.5 average damage), doing more damage on the main attack but less on the bonus action attack (which is all together better since one usually has more main attacks than bonus attacks).

Polearm Master (with Great Weapon style) is superior if you have the strength, but as an elf, your dexterity is probably higher.

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Paul Farquhar said:

Congratulations, this is almost completely wrong.

Firstly, the 1d4 bonus action attack is not an off hand weapon, so you don't need Two Weapon Fighting in order to add your ability score to damage.

Secondly, it's a 2H weapon, so it benefits from the Great Weapon fighting style, which is especially strong with 2d4, increasing the average damage from 5 to 6, and the bonus action damage from 2.5 to 3.

With the feat, it gives the finesse property to the weapon, enabling sneak attack and elven accuracy. It's comparable to the Duel Wielder Feat with 2 rapiers (4.5 average damage), doing more damage on the main attack but less on the bonus action attack (which is all together better since one usually has more main attacks than bonus attacks).

Polearm Master (with Great Weapon style) is superior if you have the strength, but as an elf, your dexterity is probably higher.

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Phazonfish said:

It was intended as hyperbole, please pardon the afterthought of a comment I tacked on my vote for its lack of precise phrasing (though I had somewhat considered this kind of response and made sure my wording was not incorrect, as a two-handed weapon you are definitely holding it in your off hand unless you are a Thri-Kreen or something and have more than one primary hand).

The approximately 4 extra damage per round you are doing by adding your ability mod, is unimpressive except at levels too low for you to have obtained the feat. Finesse weapons are not so rare as to justify taking a feat to make one from a non-finesse weapon. A Dual Wielder with rapiers does on average 4.5 damage on either type of hit, while the revenant blade does on average 5 damage on a normal hit but 2.5 damage on a bonus action hit, so the revenant blade is behind by 2 damage on the bonus action but closes the gap by 0.5 damage for each non-bonus attack; so it breaks even with the rapier on the 4th non-bonus action hit (perhaps this is my lack of experience with martial builds showing, but that seems kinda rare outside of high level fighters). Still, close enough to be considered comparable, though I don't know that "comparable to investing a feat into dual rapiers" is great praise. The synergy with Great Weapon fighting is pretty neat though, I hadn't considered that and it would be cooler if they left the extra d4 in from the WGtE version.

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