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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    For reference, here are the 65 sets of scores that equal 27 points. The scores in bold are the 20 that conform to Optimization Guidlines. Attached is the full list of 54,264 scores. You have to scroll down really far to find the Standard Array.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    Not in arrangement. The 54,264 possibilities are combinations of six scores from 3-18. With arrangement it becomes billions i think. maybe hundreds of millions. Maybe with Point Buy things look diverse because there are 720 ways to arrange each of the 65 arrays -- 46,800! Constitutin seems to...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    I think I see. This is because the point buy value scale is not symmetrical around the Classic (3d6) method's average of 10.5. We can make these 3 versions of a big, strong commoner. (13, 10, 12, 9, 8, 11) = 15 points. (11, 10, 11, 10, 10, 11) = 15 points. (15, 8, 13, 8, 8, 9) = 15 points...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    You're right. Here are 10 sets of 15d2-12, where the average is 10.5 and the standard deviation is 1.94. (That's tight!) This is comparable to the Classic (3d6) method where the average is 10.5 and the standard deviation is 2.96. (10, 13, 11, 7, 10, 8) = Unevaluatable. (10, 10, 10, 12, 9, 9) =...
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    D&D General Short folk appreciation thread – what do you play?

    Mr. Emmerybird is my halfling Blink Wizard who tele-hops around the battlefield summoning giant toads and saying, "Boo!" Her is obsessed with frogs and strives to summon the Froghemoth one day.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    I'm not sure what balance is. Earlier we pointed out that the Standard Array is the most balanced. It is also the most constrained. We also pointed out that out of a possible 54,264 sets of scores their are only 65 that equal 27 points. Furthermore, after applying Optimization guidelines to...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    Could you generate a graph for 15d2-12. Maybe a graph for 16d2k15-12, 17d2k15-12, and 18d2k15-12? 🥺
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    I think they already know.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    Yes, this is correct. Just about any method that offers choice will lead to dumping scores.° The Standard method leads to dump scores as well, I've said this several times in this thread. But, this thread is a place where the Point Buy method stands alone to defend itself without resorting to...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    🤓 Um, actually, the Commoner Array would be (10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11). This is because the average of 3d6 is 10.5, with a point buy equivalent of 15 points. 🤓
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    One way you can achieve lower variance is to roll more dice. I pushed this as far as I could get it with an absurd 15d2-12 method. I call it the Coin Flip method.
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    You can avoid dump scores by randomly placing them, but I'm not advocating for that. I repeat, I'm not advocating for random placement of scores. In this thread we've been talking about dump scores as a part of the cookie cutter problem of the Point Buy method overall. Mechanically dump scores...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    Assigning scores leads directly to dump scores. Now those are some pretty high scores with an overall bonus of 15 so I'll admit it makes it easier to avoid dumping scores. But, I would bet that most people, including myself, would put the 17 or 18 into one their "useful" abilities. This then...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    Yes, this is true. I don't know about the 50th Anniversary edition, but the 5th edition leaves us with three methods that all encourage dumping scores, but there are different ways to generate scores that don't encourage dumping, minimize it, or eliminate it all together. You know, Point Buy...
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    D&D 5E (2014) Is Point Buy Balanced?

    You don't have to roll all 18s, the same would be true if you rolled all 13s or all 4s. It's true that both the Standard method and the Point Buy method encourage score dumping. The difference though is that with the Standard method you're not making a 27-point cookie. You're unlikely to roll...
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