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  1. Levistus's_Leviathan

    Dragon Age 4 - now The Veilguard

    Dragon Age: Origins had the cleanest, most developed story, IMO, but Dragon Age 2’s gameplay and characters and the focus on Hawke were some of my favorite parts of the series. Overall I didn’t like Inquisition. The character were great, but I didn’t like the changes to combat, the pivot away...
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    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    This thread was a mistake and I’m abandoning it for the foreseeable future. I don’t think it has the capacity for the type of discussion I was aiming for. I would prefer if it were closed. Some day I might return to this topic with more research, better citations, and in a different, more...
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    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    I’ve certainly seen the (+) be used in similar ways and was told the last time I made a thread of a similar topic that I should have made it a (+) thread. Not that it’s had any effect on this thread. More people are telling me that I’m wrong and Paladins are fine than are giving suggestions to...
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    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    But the larger point is that people still think of Paladins as Crusaders. They’re still modeled after them. “Deus Vult” is a meme. While the subclasses have a diversity of oaths/worldviews, the popular original image of Paladins is still the baseline (Xenk and Dame Aylin for example). I think...
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    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    If the video is misinformation, I apologize and will retract that part of my post, but I would like to see a source countering the video’s view. He does list his sources, after all.
  6. Levistus's_Leviathan

    The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

    Yep. That is why I stopped making threads like that. More people want to make sure a discussion doesn’t happen than actually want to engage with the premise of the thread. Instant regret.
  7. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    This post is not meant to stir controversy. I very nearly didn’t post this thread because I knew it would be controversial and the dumb repetitive arguments in these sorts of threads are a major reason why I haven’t been as active as I used to be on this site. I thought I explained my mindset in...
  8. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    Where did I ever say that I don’t think you should be allowed to play a paladin? Wait, let me answer that for you. Never. I didn’t say that. This is the type of bullcrap that made me reluctant to post this thread. I am talking about the roots of the class and how they are depicted in the game...
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    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    Your last sentence has too many typos for me to be able to understand it. I am aware that the Muslims conquered Roman territory (Africa, the Levant, and Egypt). They had controlled those lands for several hundred years by the time of the crusades. The Crusades were motivated by the Pope wanting...
  10. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    There is a world of difference between how Rogues and Paladins are depicted. Paladins are almost always depicted as good guys, and Rogues are at best depicted as Robin Hood or swashbuckling archetypes, but are normally darker themed (Thieves’/Assassins guilds). One is presented as moral, the...
  11. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    That is not what caused the Crusades. The Umayyad invasion of southern France was not the cause of the crusades. The Crusades happened because of the Turkic migration into Anatolia, which took a lot of land from the Eastern Roman Empire. Alexios I Komnemos asked Pope Urban II for military aid...
  12. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    Granted, I’m not as familiar with French tales of Charlemagne’s Paladins as I am with Arthurian Legend, but it seems to me that Paladins, while being named after Charlemagne’s knights, take more inspiration from Arthurian Legend and the Crusades. Going on quests, killing monsters, etc. And that...
  13. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    I have nothing against stories or characters that make Faustian bargains. I don’t have anything against Oathbreakers, either. I was bringing up Oathbreakers to show yet another potential connection to the Knights Templar in D&D. Warlocks are mostly unconnected to any historical reality and have...
  14. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    There are people on Reddit that repeatedly say “Deus Vult” anytime paladins are brought up. When paladins had the ability to detect evil at will, them being zealous murderhobos that kill anyone that detects as evil became a stereotype. Like I said, paladins are often depicted in armor based off...
  15. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D General The Problem With Paladin's Medieval Origins (+)

    In the past year or so, I have learned a lot about medieval history that I didn't know before. I'd commonly heard and spouted the phrase that D&D isn't really medieval, it's its own thing more similar to the Renaissance but is filled with anachronisms and stuff of its own inventions (obviously...
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  18. Levistus's_Leviathan

    The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

    Didn't really work for previous threads of a similar nature that I've made. Maybe I'll make it a (+) thread if I decide to post it. That helped a bit. But I still expect it to go south quickly.
  19. Levistus's_Leviathan

    The "I Didn't Comment in Another Thread" Thread

    I don't know if I should create a thread about a topic I've been thinking about for a while. I doubt that it will generate much productive discussion and don't want to have to deal with the normal types of people that always threadcrap in threads of the type. But the topic has been bugging me...
  20. Levistus's_Leviathan

    D&D (2024) New Dungeon Master's Guide Cover Features Venger (From the D&D Cartoons)

    Maybe there are examples of similar art from previous editions, but I never really thought that Mind Flayers would carve giant stone monuments of themselves. While they are super egotistical, it doesn't vibe with my view of them. They're too logic-driven and emotionless to make art, IMO. When I...
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