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<blockquote data-quote="Beefermatic" data-source="post: 8664135" data-attributes="member: 6670757"><p>The only thing I don't like about this is the ability that makes all Words of Chaos not affect him. Those are from my campaign setting and supposed to be words from the Akasha, and Thychen was supposed to have driven Xochipactli (called Xenopactli when I first wrote about it years ago) off.</p><p></p><p>Veto as well, that's a Mulahat ability given to Thychen and I make it to all Supreme Beings within their own Creation to be able to counter other Supreme Being level threats. The Mulahat are supposed to be like Omniversal Referees, negating that doesn't really make sense..</p><p></p><p>Those abilities should counter his Outsider ability, just being able to negate Supreme Being level abilities without a counter is dumb, imo. If the two powers cancel each other out, sure I can get behind that, however you gave him a multitude of abilities that have no counter and can't be negated.. Moreover him being able to just negate an entire existence, or alter it in any way he sees fit, without a save even, unless this is just talking about his own existence of course, I think is silly, like how does that work?</p><p></p><p>It seems like the most fun aspects of a battle between two beings calling themselves God gets negated like this without even any fanfare. Unless I'm assuming of course.</p><p></p><p>You could have a whole Divine to Pleromic campaign setting situated around the concept of reality attempting to be rewritten and the Supreme Being needing help to face a Multiversal level threat, but in one single swipe that gets taken off the table because he gets to do whatever he wants to whomever he pleases without any way to circumvent it, even for an all powerful being? Idk. It's your creation but. Come on.</p><p></p><p>The Mulahat are already existing outside Thychen's creation, they're Extramultiversal beings as well, being not born of Creation but from the greater hyper-reality that houses Akasha, Aravoth if you will, so by proxy of that, they should also be able to affect him. Theoretically.</p><p></p><p>The rest of his abilities make it a sporting fight, he's physically more powerful than Thychen, and has more devastating basic capabilities, but Thychen has far stronger overall capabilities, besides broken ones, and a full regalia of items, some of which are pretty terrifying. </p><p></p><p>That said, adding abilities in that can't be countered or only seem to exist to counter Thychen seems pedantic and 'I win button'ish. I'd probably make the two beings powers largely negate one another's abilities appropriately. Will of God counters Outsider, Universal Disrupt counters Profane the Existence etc</p><p></p><p>I don't think a being who's power is supposed to be at Supreme Being power should just be able to auto defeat any other attack form or any other Supreme Being without some kind of counter ability, otherwise, especially at these levels it becomes lopsided and it makes Xochipactli unable to be used in a high campaign setting if, regardless of powers you may have, nothing works. </p><p></p><p>Otherwise as I said, I love this post, I think it's awesome. It's apparent you tried to make abilities that counter and negate Thychen's most devastating powers which is great, the only way to truly take him down is via negation, but auto everything negation plus inability to counter and added Omega makes it a little hard to use. </p><p></p><p>I may go in and outline a few other abilities on Thychen's sheet, not add anything just outline abilities he already has, as his abilities are largely assumed, moreover i should really put his damage potential down vice just infinity signs.</p><p></p><p>He's a truly worthy and terrifying Omega and a frightening opponent, even for God.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Beefermatic, post: 8664135, member: 6670757"] The only thing I don't like about this is the ability that makes all Words of Chaos not affect him. Those are from my campaign setting and supposed to be words from the Akasha, and Thychen was supposed to have driven Xochipactli (called Xenopactli when I first wrote about it years ago) off. Veto as well, that's a Mulahat ability given to Thychen and I make it to all Supreme Beings within their own Creation to be able to counter other Supreme Being level threats. The Mulahat are supposed to be like Omniversal Referees, negating that doesn't really make sense.. Those abilities should counter his Outsider ability, just being able to negate Supreme Being level abilities without a counter is dumb, imo. If the two powers cancel each other out, sure I can get behind that, however you gave him a multitude of abilities that have no counter and can't be negated.. Moreover him being able to just negate an entire existence, or alter it in any way he sees fit, without a save even, unless this is just talking about his own existence of course, I think is silly, like how does that work? It seems like the most fun aspects of a battle between two beings calling themselves God gets negated like this without even any fanfare. Unless I'm assuming of course. You could have a whole Divine to Pleromic campaign setting situated around the concept of reality attempting to be rewritten and the Supreme Being needing help to face a Multiversal level threat, but in one single swipe that gets taken off the table because he gets to do whatever he wants to whomever he pleases without any way to circumvent it, even for an all powerful being? Idk. It's your creation but. Come on. The Mulahat are already existing outside Thychen's creation, they're Extramultiversal beings as well, being not born of Creation but from the greater hyper-reality that houses Akasha, Aravoth if you will, so by proxy of that, they should also be able to affect him. Theoretically. The rest of his abilities make it a sporting fight, he's physically more powerful than Thychen, and has more devastating basic capabilities, but Thychen has far stronger overall capabilities, besides broken ones, and a full regalia of items, some of which are pretty terrifying. That said, adding abilities in that can't be countered or only seem to exist to counter Thychen seems pedantic and 'I win button'ish. I'd probably make the two beings powers largely negate one another's abilities appropriately. Will of God counters Outsider, Universal Disrupt counters Profane the Existence etc I don't think a being who's power is supposed to be at Supreme Being power should just be able to auto defeat any other attack form or any other Supreme Being without some kind of counter ability, otherwise, especially at these levels it becomes lopsided and it makes Xochipactli unable to be used in a high campaign setting if, regardless of powers you may have, nothing works. Otherwise as I said, I love this post, I think it's awesome. It's apparent you tried to make abilities that counter and negate Thychen's most devastating powers which is great, the only way to truly take him down is via negation, but auto everything negation plus inability to counter and added Omega makes it a little hard to use. I may go in and outline a few other abilities on Thychen's sheet, not add anything just outline abilities he already has, as his abilities are largely assumed, moreover i should really put his damage potential down vice just infinity signs. He's a truly worthy and terrifying Omega and a frightening opponent, even for God. [/QUOTE]
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