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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8563496" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Glad you found us. </p><p></p><p>Yes the Cimeriel and Welkin were some things hinted at in the previous books at a time when I thought I would do multiple Epic Bestiary's and full time employment (just after I finished Ascension) really put the brakes on that and then 4E hit and I should have stuck to epic but I wanted to do a vampire book...and to cut a long story short I never got around to designing the Cimeriel and Welkin.</p><p></p><p>At the moment I have a lot more free time (I still work, but only part time) and I like the idea of doing an epic book for 5E. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This was something derived from 1st Edition AD&D. A deity is permanently slain if defeated on their home plane - they don't necessarily have to be within their divine realm. The divine realm is simply the radius of the plane/layer over which they hold sway.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are certainly epic spells (and certain epic monsters) which can slay a god permanently even outside of their home plane. I wouldn't necessarily say it was automatic permanent death if a sidereal was to slay an immortal outside their home plane for instance.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>- First Death (ie. Physical Death, or Material Death) will not kill a god outside their home plane, the spirit simply goes back to their divine realm and rejuvenates.</p><p></p><p>- Second Death (ie. Spiritual Death, or sometimes Astral Death or Oblivion) will kill a god outside their home plane - but very few monsters have this ability, which is also a high powered epic spell. </p><p></p><p>For this ability to slay a Sidereal the caster/monster needs to be equal or greater in power (as per Cosmic String). </p><p></p><p>N.B. possessing an artifact equal to or greater in power than the target might allow a weaker being to slay the sidereal due to the artifact raising the inherent power of the wielder.</p><p></p><p>- Third Death (ie. Mental Death, or Final Death, Unmaking) is the ability to erase something from ever having existed. You are extinguishing even the idea of them, so no one will remember them.</p><p></p><p>This ability would over-write Cosmic String.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 8563496, member: 326"] Glad you found us. Yes the Cimeriel and Welkin were some things hinted at in the previous books at a time when I thought I would do multiple Epic Bestiary's and full time employment (just after I finished Ascension) really put the brakes on that and then 4E hit and I should have stuck to epic but I wanted to do a vampire book...and to cut a long story short I never got around to designing the Cimeriel and Welkin. At the moment I have a lot more free time (I still work, but only part time) and I like the idea of doing an epic book for 5E. This was something derived from 1st Edition AD&D. A deity is permanently slain if defeated on their home plane - they don't necessarily have to be within their divine realm. The divine realm is simply the radius of the plane/layer over which they hold sway. There are certainly epic spells (and certain epic monsters) which can slay a god permanently even outside of their home plane. I wouldn't necessarily say it was automatic permanent death if a sidereal was to slay an immortal outside their home plane for instance. - First Death (ie. Physical Death, or Material Death) will not kill a god outside their home plane, the spirit simply goes back to their divine realm and rejuvenates. - Second Death (ie. Spiritual Death, or sometimes Astral Death or Oblivion) will kill a god outside their home plane - but very few monsters have this ability, which is also a high powered epic spell. For this ability to slay a Sidereal the caster/monster needs to be equal or greater in power (as per Cosmic String). N.B. possessing an artifact equal to or greater in power than the target might allow a weaker being to slay the sidereal due to the artifact raising the inherent power of the wielder. - Third Death (ie. Mental Death, or Final Death, Unmaking) is the ability to erase something from ever having existed. You are extinguishing even the idea of them, so no one will remember them. This ability would over-write Cosmic String. [/QUOTE]
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