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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9270843" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>This is a Catch-22 situation though, isn't it, [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]?</p><p></p><p>Unless people keep making accusations, some of which will - I completely agree - be proven baseless, then we'll gradually see more and more "low detectability" AI art creep into stuff. I'd rather people made bad accusations and then got shown to be wrong than people stopped making accusations.</p><p></p><p>It's trivially easy to disprove such allegations to a publisher or the like, because as a digital artist, you simply send the the appropriate file that shows how you constructed the art. You already have that file! You needed it to make the art! You don't just delete those! So it's not a big deal imho.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, dude, I get you're not an artist so you don't understand. But when make digital art, you do this automatically. It's not extra book-keeping for digital artists so don't make up stuff like this. No-one is requiring digital artists to "track and keep every step of the process" - if you were doing digital art you would understand that this inherent to the process. Seriously, if you do a few tutorials, spend a few week fiddling around with GIMP or something and a big lightbulb will come on above your head.</p><p></p><p>It's not that the artist had meticulously documented this - he just kept pressing save in a file type that records everything you do so you can reverse or change it - which is what GIMP, Photoshop (and Paintshop back in the day) and so on have been doing SINCE THE 1990s! I know this because I used to do digital art - indeed, half my art A-level from the year of our lord 1997 was done digitally!</p><p></p><p>This is not new. Please don't make up fictional difficulties. People will believe you. I would go as far as to suggest editing your post to prevent anyone in future seeing it and thinking "THOSE POOR ARTISTS!". Yes being an artist suuuuucks, I stopped for a reason! But that ain't the reason. If you are doing real digital art, you already have everything you need to prove it is real. That is the one good thing here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9270843, member: 18"] This is a Catch-22 situation though, isn't it, [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]? Unless people keep making accusations, some of which will - I completely agree - be proven baseless, then we'll gradually see more and more "low detectability" AI art creep into stuff. I'd rather people made bad accusations and then got shown to be wrong than people stopped making accusations. It's trivially easy to disprove such allegations to a publisher or the like, because as a digital artist, you simply send the the appropriate file that shows how you constructed the art. You already have that file! You needed it to make the art! You don't just delete those! So it's not a big deal imho. No, dude, I get you're not an artist so you don't understand. But when make digital art, you do this automatically. It's not extra book-keeping for digital artists so don't make up stuff like this. No-one is requiring digital artists to "track and keep every step of the process" - if you were doing digital art you would understand that this inherent to the process. Seriously, if you do a few tutorials, spend a few week fiddling around with GIMP or something and a big lightbulb will come on above your head. It's not that the artist had meticulously documented this - he just kept pressing save in a file type that records everything you do so you can reverse or change it - which is what GIMP, Photoshop (and Paintshop back in the day) and so on have been doing SINCE THE 1990s! I know this because I used to do digital art - indeed, half my art A-level from the year of our lord 1997 was done digitally! This is not new. Please don't make up fictional difficulties. People will believe you. I would go as far as to suggest editing your post to prevent anyone in future seeing it and thinking "THOSE POOR ARTISTS!". Yes being an artist suuuuucks, I stopped for a reason! But that ain't the reason. If you are doing real digital art, you already have everything you need to prove it is real. That is the one good thing here. [/QUOTE]
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