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<blockquote data-quote="JEB" data-source="post: 9268961" data-attributes="member: 10148"><p>Spinning out of this thread: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-core-monster-lineup-across-all-editions.702634/" target="_blank">https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-core-monster-lineup-across-all-editions.702634/</a></p><p></p><p>Years ago, I assembled some lists of every monster that had been in a core monster source for each edition of D&D. The sources in question being:</p><p>0e: The original boxed set</p><p>Basic: The 1977 Basic Set (Holmes), the 1981 Basic Set (Moldvay), the 1983 Basic Rules (Mentzer), and the Rules Cyclopedia</p><p>1e: Monster Manual</p><p>2e: Monstrous Compendium Vols. 1 and 2, Monstrous Manual</p><p>3e: Monster Manual (3.0 and 3.5)</p><p>4e: Monster Manual, Monster Vault</p><p>5e: Monster Manual</p><p></p><p>In the other thread, I used the lists to determine which monsters had been present in every edition of the game, and asked why those persisted. (A discussion I'd like to see continue!) But some folks wanted to see variations on that list with different cutoffs (such as excluding Basic, or starting from 1e or 2e). So I went back to my original lists, and created a Google Sheet with the info. (Gave me the chance to recheck my data, too.)</p><p></p><p>Here is that sheet: <a href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Voh18OPQIYs-LP_RBnlLzW4OvakiWQbZBjziU6ovtO0/" target="_blank">link</a></p><p></p><p>A few notes:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I tried to sort related creatures together in the list, taking organization cues from the various monster books.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">That said, NPCs were a bit of a hassle, since many are "human" variants in some editions, and others are their own distinct entries (i.e. "acolyte"). So they're under "human" if the former was ever true, and spread out into the rest of the list if otherwise.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I didn't list every single variant of a given monster as its own entry (for example, "orc eye of Gruumsh"), only those that seemed fairly distinct from the base creature. (I probably still included too many variants.)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">If a monster had different names in different editions ("empyrean" vs. "titan"), I still treated them as one creature (and listed the different names in [brackets]). On the other hand, if two creatures had the same name but had significant differences (beyond just reimagining for a given edition's themes), I listed them separately. I tried to be careful not to combine things that were actually different.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I counted any time they said "to represent Monster X, use statblock Y" as an instance of that monster. However, super-generic statblocks meant to cover a lot of different things (such as "mammal, giant") were listed separately.</li> </ul><p>EDIT: This was updated slightly after the discovery of core 0e monsters for "naval adventures", as detailed in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285236" target="_blank">this post</a>.</p><p></p><p>EDIT 2: Links to each block, for convenience:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Basic D&D: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9273489" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9274326" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">1e: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9276805" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9277957" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2e, MC Vols. 1 and 2: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9279637" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9280461" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2e, Monstrous Manual: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9282724" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9283533%27" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3.0: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9284246" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285142" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3.5: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285857" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285868" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4e: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9287066" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9287871" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4e Essentials: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9288581" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a>, <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9289722" target="_blank">status in later editions</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">5e: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9290648" target="_blank">Source breakdown</a></li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JEB, post: 9268961, member: 10148"] Spinning out of this thread: [URL]https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-core-monster-lineup-across-all-editions.702634/[/URL] Years ago, I assembled some lists of every monster that had been in a core monster source for each edition of D&D. The sources in question being: 0e: The original boxed set Basic: The 1977 Basic Set (Holmes), the 1981 Basic Set (Moldvay), the 1983 Basic Rules (Mentzer), and the Rules Cyclopedia 1e: Monster Manual 2e: Monstrous Compendium Vols. 1 and 2, Monstrous Manual 3e: Monster Manual (3.0 and 3.5) 4e: Monster Manual, Monster Vault 5e: Monster Manual In the other thread, I used the lists to determine which monsters had been present in every edition of the game, and asked why those persisted. (A discussion I'd like to see continue!) But some folks wanted to see variations on that list with different cutoffs (such as excluding Basic, or starting from 1e or 2e). So I went back to my original lists, and created a Google Sheet with the info. (Gave me the chance to recheck my data, too.) Here is that sheet: [URL='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Voh18OPQIYs-LP_RBnlLzW4OvakiWQbZBjziU6ovtO0/']link[/URL] A few notes: [LIST] [*]I tried to sort related creatures together in the list, taking organization cues from the various monster books. [*]That said, NPCs were a bit of a hassle, since many are "human" variants in some editions, and others are their own distinct entries (i.e. "acolyte"). So they're under "human" if the former was ever true, and spread out into the rest of the list if otherwise. [*]I didn't list every single variant of a given monster as its own entry (for example, "orc eye of Gruumsh"), only those that seemed fairly distinct from the base creature. (I probably still included too many variants.) [*]If a monster had different names in different editions ("empyrean" vs. "titan"), I still treated them as one creature (and listed the different names in [brackets]). On the other hand, if two creatures had the same name but had significant differences (beyond just reimagining for a given edition's themes), I listed them separately. I tried to be careful not to combine things that were actually different. [*]I counted any time they said "to represent Monster X, use statblock Y" as an instance of that monster. However, super-generic statblocks meant to cover a lot of different things (such as "mammal, giant") were listed separately. [/LIST] EDIT: This was updated slightly after the discovery of core 0e monsters for "naval adventures", as detailed in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285236']this post[/URL]. EDIT 2: Links to each block, for convenience: [LIST] [*]Basic D&D: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9273489']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9274326']status in later editions[/URL] [*]1e: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9276805']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9277957']status in later editions[/URL] [*]2e, MC Vols. 1 and 2: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9279637']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9280461']status in later editions[/URL] [*]2e, Monstrous Manual: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9282724']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9283533%27']status in later editions[/URL] [*]3.0: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9284246']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285142']status in later editions[/URL] [*]3.5: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285857']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9285868']status in later editions[/URL] [*]4e: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9287066']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9287871']status in later editions[/URL] [*]4e Essentials: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9288581']Source breakdown[/URL], [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9289722']status in later editions[/URL] [*]5e: [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/every-core-monster-ever-in-d-d.702706/post-9290648']Source breakdown[/URL] [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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