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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8207771" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Yeah, but then there's 10% of Elven Chainmail which is sized for humans. And there's the question of half-elves as well. So it is quite a bit less clear than it first appears. This is not even getting into the questions raised by various other supplements. Some of them are written under the assumption that this works for anyone, or at least some specific 'rules' are. There are NPCs/pregens in various places as well. It is really clear as mud. I don't argue that when Zeb or Steve or whomever wrote those paragraphs in the PHB that they were not definite in their minds about it, just that TSR as a whole didn't really consistently follow through on rules. They treated them more as "well, this is how we thought it maybe should be" vs "though shalt do X or be blasted by lightning."</p><p></p><p>Also, probably 90% of the people running 2e at the time the PHB/DMG/MC came out were simply skimming the rules and making a few minor adjustments to their 1e stuff. I mean, frankly, we didn't even read carefully enough or care enough to get into that kind of minutia, and at that level 1e and 2e are not particularly consistent. In fact there really isn't much point to Elven Chain in 1e since elves can cast spells in any sort of armor. At best it is just a way for your elf thief/m-u to have a better AC, assuming you can find a set. </p><p></p><p>Beyond that I'm pretty sure that elves got to be Bards later in some splat book anyway, so that would make the whole thing a bit more relevant to that class. Frankly I'm pretty sure we quickly decided that bards could cast in leather, as it was not a huge problem and the class is a bit on the weaker side as it is.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 8207771, member: 82106"] Yeah, but then there's 10% of Elven Chainmail which is sized for humans. And there's the question of half-elves as well. So it is quite a bit less clear than it first appears. This is not even getting into the questions raised by various other supplements. Some of them are written under the assumption that this works for anyone, or at least some specific 'rules' are. There are NPCs/pregens in various places as well. It is really clear as mud. I don't argue that when Zeb or Steve or whomever wrote those paragraphs in the PHB that they were not definite in their minds about it, just that TSR as a whole didn't really consistently follow through on rules. They treated them more as "well, this is how we thought it maybe should be" vs "though shalt do X or be blasted by lightning." Also, probably 90% of the people running 2e at the time the PHB/DMG/MC came out were simply skimming the rules and making a few minor adjustments to their 1e stuff. I mean, frankly, we didn't even read carefully enough or care enough to get into that kind of minutia, and at that level 1e and 2e are not particularly consistent. In fact there really isn't much point to Elven Chain in 1e since elves can cast spells in any sort of armor. At best it is just a way for your elf thief/m-u to have a better AC, assuming you can find a set. Beyond that I'm pretty sure that elves got to be Bards later in some splat book anyway, so that would make the whole thing a bit more relevant to that class. Frankly I'm pretty sure we quickly decided that bards could cast in leather, as it was not a huge problem and the class is a bit on the weaker side as it is. [/QUOTE]
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