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<blockquote data-quote="thirdkingdom" data-source="post: 9279551" data-attributes="member: 78442"><p>It's not a weird take for creators trying to make a living, I can guarantee you that. I don't know if you've ever tried to sell anything you've made -- whether it be an rpg supplement, a painting, heck, even pies at a farmer's market. I can promise you that every single person who sells the products of their labor and imagination has heard some variation of: "you want how much for that?! My five-year old could do that in their sleep."</p><p></p><p>I own a custom cabinet shop IRL, which alread self-selects for a certain price point, but every month I get people reach out to me asking me to price stuff and then act amazed at how much things cost. For awhile I tried to make a living building furniture. I was pretty good, I think. I was juried into the Smithsonian Craft Show two out of the three years I applied. It's harder to get into that show as an artisan than Harvard or Yale. I was selected to show at the Philly Museum of Art show as a Best Emerging Artist. Do you have any idea how hard it is to make a living building furniture? Even super high-end stuff? Virtually impossible. You design and price something and the client looks at it and says "Oh, that's too much. I can find something like that on etsy for 500.00, <em>and</em> they'll throw in free shipping." There's a reason I went back to doing cabinetry, because it's easier to make a living doing that than one-off, high-end furniture.</p><p></p><p>It's just as hard to make a living writing rpg products, to the extent that the vast majority of people who do it are either barely making minimum wage or do it as a side gig. Even Kevin Crawford, who I hold up as one of the exemplars of rpg publishing, doesn't write for a living. Especially now, with the advent of AI threatening the literal livelihoods of people who depend on their art for a living, I don't think defending someone's right to price their work what they need to make a living wage is too much to ask.</p><p></p><p>So, yes, I am sensitive to people criticizing artists for how they price things. Like I said, there's plenty to be critical of Gillespie for without resorting to critiquing how he prices things.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thirdkingdom, post: 9279551, member: 78442"] It's not a weird take for creators trying to make a living, I can guarantee you that. I don't know if you've ever tried to sell anything you've made -- whether it be an rpg supplement, a painting, heck, even pies at a farmer's market. I can promise you that every single person who sells the products of their labor and imagination has heard some variation of: "you want how much for that?! My five-year old could do that in their sleep." I own a custom cabinet shop IRL, which alread self-selects for a certain price point, but every month I get people reach out to me asking me to price stuff and then act amazed at how much things cost. For awhile I tried to make a living building furniture. I was pretty good, I think. I was juried into the Smithsonian Craft Show two out of the three years I applied. It's harder to get into that show as an artisan than Harvard or Yale. I was selected to show at the Philly Museum of Art show as a Best Emerging Artist. Do you have any idea how hard it is to make a living building furniture? Even super high-end stuff? Virtually impossible. You design and price something and the client looks at it and says "Oh, that's too much. I can find something like that on etsy for 500.00, [I]and[/I] they'll throw in free shipping." There's a reason I went back to doing cabinetry, because it's easier to make a living doing that than one-off, high-end furniture. It's just as hard to make a living writing rpg products, to the extent that the vast majority of people who do it are either barely making minimum wage or do it as a side gig. Even Kevin Crawford, who I hold up as one of the exemplars of rpg publishing, doesn't write for a living. Especially now, with the advent of AI threatening the literal livelihoods of people who depend on their art for a living, I don't think defending someone's right to price their work what they need to make a living wage is too much to ask. So, yes, I am sensitive to people criticizing artists for how they price things. Like I said, there's plenty to be critical of Gillespie for without resorting to critiquing how he prices things. [/QUOTE]
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