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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9333163" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Ok. Then your character can be effective. you can stun or frigthen enemies without magic, you can get bonuses to skill checks without magic etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they are built for that yes. But you can build fighters to be good at other things too and you can even do it without resorting to magic.</p><p></p><p>You have to give up something though and that is what I think a lot of the people who complain about fighters don't want to do. They want to have a 20 strength and a 16 Constitution and Pole Arm Master and still be able to be effective at those other pillars. The class is not designed to do that and you should pick a different class if that is your character idea.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly. It is totally doable and I play fighters like that all the time (exclusively actually)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, which part specifically?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EXACTLY!!! What is the problem?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they are not using spells for combat they are not as good as a fighter in combat, especially the Bard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9333163, member: 7030563"] Ok. Then your character can be effective. you can stun or frigthen enemies without magic, you can get bonuses to skill checks without magic etc. If they are built for that yes. But you can build fighters to be good at other things too and you can even do it without resorting to magic. You have to give up something though and that is what I think a lot of the people who complain about fighters don't want to do. They want to have a 20 strength and a 16 Constitution and Pole Arm Master and still be able to be effective at those other pillars. The class is not designed to do that and you should pick a different class if that is your character idea. Exactly. It is totally doable and I play fighters like that all the time (exclusively actually) Sure, which part specifically? EXACTLY!!! What is the problem? If they are not using spells for combat they are not as good as a fighter in combat, especially the Bard. [/QUOTE]
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